Scotland 2016: Golf in St. Andrews
May 25, 2017
Apologies for the extended delay between posts here – As you can tell, JK and I made up for the fact that his father was unable to join us for the epic trip to Scotland, and naturally we had to blog about that too. (See “Sand Rocks“)
On to Fife/St.Andrews!
Summary: In this section, I’ll discuss the particulars of our visit to the New Course, the Old Course, the Eden Course, the Jubilee Course, and Kingsbarns. Various and sundry other locations in and around Scotland will be noted and discussed accordingly.
After our whirlwind time in East Lothian with our new friends, and in particular crossing the behemoth of Muirfield off our respective bucket lists, JK and I hopped in our tiny rental car (he drove) and we made our way to Fife as quickly as possible. One quick tip here, it is helpful to have someone in your party that can drive stick, and then drive stick completely backwards. There is no shot we’d have made it to Fife if I were the one that were driving. Fortunately, we were able to navigate our way to our lodging at Agnes Blackadder Hall, and then over to the St. Andrews Golf Club. We met with our host there who took us over to the New Course.
The New Course
As with most of the humor in Scotland, the name of this course in somewhat tongue in cheek. The New Course was built in 1895.
In a word, I’d describe the New Course as comfortable. Without a doubt, it truly is a links course. The New is tucked between the Old and Jubilee Courses. Indeed, many of the front nine holes play adjacent to the Old Course, and it is even possible to play some of the New Course holes from Old Course fairways if you hit wayward tee shots. However, the lack of major championship history for this course or indeed, much general knowledge about any significant professional or other championship golf reduced the insane urge that we felt to perform well in storied theaters. JK and I stepped up to the first tee here with our host and were able to just play. We hoofed our bags, chatted with our host about golf, Scotland, the U.S., politics, food, etc., and managed to get a perfect introduction to the history and culture around golf in St. Andrews.
The New Course essentially acts as the locals’ home course. Naturally, when tee times are available on the Old, they will take them as we would, but when the opportunity arises to shove off work early or get in a late afternoon round, the New Course is the first option. As you might imagine, the course gets less play than the Old, so rounds take less time. One would think that conditions might be better with less play, but it would be doing a disservice to the Old Course to make that assertion. Links turf is remarkably different to any turf that is commonly available in the U.S., and is very hearty. The greens tend to run a bit slower, of course, but no less true.
The New Course also has incredible views of the surrounding area, and of its two neighboring courses.

View from 9th tee, I believe?
Upon ranking the St. Andrews Courses and trying to decide where we would advise our readers to play during their own trips, we agreed that the New was certainly one that folks should incorporate into their rotation if they are in St. Andrews for multiple rounds.
That Night
The date is August 4, 2016. The time is 4:15 AM. Two lunatics arrive at the starters tent at the Old Course upon the advice of their host earlier that evening to queue up before the break of dawn to the following scene:
Believe it or not, at 4:15 AM, JK and I are respectively 11th and 12th in line for the standby list to play the Old Course. So we sit there for what feels like 2 days in the cold waiting for the shack to open. We try to catch some zzz’s… Some more creatively than others:
But eventually we are told that we should come back at 2pm and that we should have a tee time shortly thereafter.
Dutifully, we arrive at 1:30 and are told that we are to report to the first the tee at 3:50pm. Ecstatic, sleep deprived, and hungry, we trudge over to the Dunvegan pub. More on this amazing place later.
The Old Course
The words that come to mind when I think about the Old Course: Timeless, Unique, and Epic.
What can I say about the Old Course at St. Andrews…. Well, I sat for about two hours pondering this exact question, and it turns out that I could say quite a bit. However, what I’d say you could read in any number of likely much better written reviews than this one. JK’s initial post about our trip sums up my particular experience with the Old Course, which was memorable to say the least. (Not so humble brag… I shot 74, my career low to date).
I’ll limit my observations on the Old Course to the following two:
- If there were only 1 course I could play for the rest of my life, it would be the Old Course at St. Andrews. If this were the case, I’d still play golf every single day, and twice on Saturday because it’s closed on Sunday.
- If you get a chance to play, on your way back in, be sure you pay attention to the town of St. Andrews on the horizon periodically. It’s truly awe-inspiring to see this tiny little town grow and grow until it surrounds you as you walk back toward the R&A clubhouse. This is one of the coolest unintended effects of the Old Course that I feel is an underrated part of the experience. A very small piece of this is captured in the images below.
The Dunvegan Pub (again)
Yeah, we got hammered after that round. And drank more Kummel.
The end.
The Eden Course
The one memorable thing about this course was that we almost played the wrong hole at one point. Had we not run into the only other person playing this course, we likely might have only played 11 holes and wondered where the rest of them where.
I shot 78, JK did not. Our thoughts as we were waiting for the shuttle back to the Old Course clubhouse after the round: “why did we just play that course?” Guess you can’t win them all.
The Jubilee Course
The Jubilee course, like Spyglass Hill, is a wonderful example of a course that would be more well-known if were located more than 10 yards from one of the most famous courses in the world. This course was truly fun. The course felt a bit shorter than the other links courses that we played, but much tighter and more fraught with danger. Nearly ever hole includes some incredibly menacing rough or bunker that a careful player must avoid or contend with. I honestly can’t remember a single shot that allowed the player to lay back or make a small mistake. That being said, I also don’t remember hitting a single long iron, so really, there shouldn’t be many mistakes…
The Old Jigger Inn
JK ate Haggis. Gross.
Kingsbarns
And finally, one of the true jewels of this trip – Kingsbarns. This Kyle Phillips masterpiece was truly one of the finest courses I’ve had the chance to play.

Panoramic view of 18 from the clubhouse at sunrise
To get a few non-golf things out of the way: 1) the non-golf experience at Kingsbarns is far more typical of the experience at a high-end U.S. resort than the other Scottish links. That is to say, there are at least two sets of tees that almost no one should be allowed to play for the sake of enjoying the game, the food and drink are actually quite good, and your wallet is going to be a good bit lighter when you leave. This is due in part to the fact that the owner of Kingsbarns is actually an American that lives in Pleasanton, CA. 2) The clubhouse was one of the best I’ve seen anywhere, ever. 3) They have their own whisky. It’s really good.
Regarding the golf: awe-inspiring is the phrase that comes to mind for me. Nearly every hole has an epic view of the North Sea. The whole course was built upon a fairly flat spit of land, and apparently required over 200,000 cubic meters of dirt to be moved for its construction. This allowed Kyle to create some truly stunning golf holes that likely wouldn’t be easy to form naturally. It is one of the few courses we played that had any kind of a forced carry, but even those felt quite manageable.
One hole that stood out to JK and me as not really fitting with the rest was the par three 15th. This hole required a forced carry over part of the North Sea to a tucked green. While it was a great hole in its own right, it didn’t feel like it fit with the typical style of the area.

View from the 15th tee at Kingsbarns
JK also took issue with driveable par four 6th hole. I’m not sure why, honestly. I loved it.

View from the 6th tee at Kingsbarns. (Hole is above the two bunkers on right side)
In my opinion, Kingsbarns could be one of the best ever. It looked as epic as Pebble Beach on every tee shot, played like a true links, and had incredible shot value. While some shots didn’t fit the true links style, the result is still a course I feel could be imminently playable any time of the year, and could certainly host an Open Championship any time. The one piece of advice JK and I agreed on for this course that we wish we had followed was to take a caddy. Oh, also, I hope you’ll agree, Kingsbarns was far and away the most photogenic course we played.
Odds and Ends (Rapid Fire Edition)
- If you get a chance/invite – visit either the St. Andrews Golf Club or the New Club. Great insight into the difference between the attitude toward golf in the U.S. and Scotland
- Agnes Blackadder Hall is the best kept secret for lodging in St. Andrews. Your own room, good shower, and breakfast for £40 a night. We booked using Hotels.com.
- If you’re going to wait in line at the Old course, get there at 4am or earlier. Bring warm clothing and sleeping bag.
- Amazing pro tip: there are LOCKERS at New Course Club House that you can use for free (£1 refundable deposit) that hold a full size golf bag. Store your crap here between rounds, or while you’re waiting in line to play the Old Course. Be careful about leaving things overnight though – not sure of the policy here.
- If you’re a stickler for having “official” gear, be careful of shopping anywhere else besides the St. Andrew’s branded pro shops at the clubhouses. There are lots of duplicates and unofficial suppliers, but that doesn’t mean they don’t make good stuff.
- Belhaven’s Best Beer. Locals call it Bell’s Best. Drink it.
- If we were going to do it again, we’d eliminate the Eden, and wait in line to play the Old again. If you want other recommendations in the area, we heard great things about Crail and the Castle Course.
- Finally, if you’re lucky, you might get a view like this one before you leave:
Thank you for reading!
Course Review: Blackheath Golf Club
April 28, 2015
Preamble: I have been sitting at my computer for roughly 15 minutes now trying to figure out how to start this review. I feel like this used to be easier, or maybe I just used to be better at this… Also, I apologize in advance for the lack of photos in this review. The photos I took do not do the course justice, so I decided not to use them.
Let’s just rip the bandage off and start writing. For the last several months, I have been living in the Detroit, MI area and attempting to keep my hands warm enough to hit a few balls. See LG on golf in the tundra. One great takeaway I’ve had from my time here is to learn just how excellent Michigan golf can be. Don’t quote me on this, but I’m pretty sure Michigan has 3.2 golf courses for every golfer that lives in this state. Northern Michigan also has some of the most breathtaking courses I’ve ever had a chance to play. Later, I’ll post a review of my 9 hole round at Arcadia Bluffs. The pictures cannot begin to show the elevation change and character of that amazing property. More to come there. Another added benefit of having so many amazing courses – tons of selection, quicker rounds than I’m used to in California, and excellent courses are highly affordable!
Now for the good stuff. Today, I review Blackheath Golf Club located in Rochester, MI. So, I was sitting on the couch last night trying to decide where to play. Not having a set of golf buddies in Michigan, any sense of which courses are worth playing, and no last minute access to the Red Wings game, I decide to tool around on golfnow.com and golfadvisor.com to book a tee time for Saturday morning. Blackheath catches my eye for a few reasons: 1) bent grass greens 2) links style course 3) $37. That might be enough to sell me alone, but the reviews on golfadvisor confirm that the course is generally kept in very good shape. Anyone that knows JK and me knows that this is a no brainer. I book the 10:18 am spot through the course’s website because it’s cheaper than golfnow.com. (Sorry to out you, golfnow, but hey, you weren’t the cheapest).
Upon arrival, I know I’m coming to a place that is purely about golf. The only visible structure on the course is the pro shop/maintenance shed. To the right is the practice facility where you can take your mish-mash bucket of balls and warm up, or just head straight to the first tee. Don’t expect a large menu in the grill, mainly because there isn’t a grill. The staff will happily make change for you for the vending machine, however. No bells, no frills, just golf. I love it.
While the course had not grown in entirely from the winter, I can confirm that the bent grass greens were in immaculate shape. These could be the best greens I’ve had a chance to play in Michigan, and they definitely rival the condition of many I’ve played in California. My deepest thanks to the greenkeeping staff!
As far as the layout is concerned, my immediate impression was that this Par 71 is a true links style course. Don’t let the yardage fool you. 6700-6800 yards here will play much longer than the scorecard yardage when the wind is blowing its normal pace. That 73/137 is no joke. The gentleman in the pro shop told me it is more of a “heathland” style course (see definition found via the Google), which was a fascinating new term for me to learn. In either case, this is truly one of the courses any golf trip to the area should include, and residents of the area should play regularly. For a course located in an area that is generally flat, there was a surprising amount of elevation change built into the course. While most of this must have been manufactured by the architects, it did not have the “cookie cutter” quality that is generally off-putting about those types of courses. Moreover, the architect took care to fabricate run up and collection areas with these elevation changes that play the way these features are meant to be played – fast and firm, but penal if shots are not executed well.
As I tend to do in my reviews, I focus on the par 3s and par 5 holes because I tend to enjoy those the most. Blackheath has five par 3s and four par 5s, and they contain my favorite and least favorite holes on the course. My favorite hole was the par 3 12th. I wish the picture had turned out better, but today, it played 214 yards with a steady left to right wind. The pin was cut in the front and framed between two massive heather-faced bunkers. I drew 4 iron with the holes of holding up a draw into the breeze and softly landing 3 feet left of the flag. 4 additional shots later, I’m walking off the green with a spoiled round and a giant smile on my face. Golf does that some times. If there’s a criticism of this course, it must be the design of the par 5 11th. The 600 yard hole bends sharply around the outside of the course’s par 5 8th. Without any real penalty for missing the drive, the prudent way to play this hole is up the 8th fairway to take a large bite out of the yardage. While I believe that courses should always allow for some creativity off the tee, the play should always be to the fairway that the hole is designed around.
All in all, for a true links (heathland) style experience, I would highly recommend Blackheath golf club. Towards the summer when the course firms up and the run up areas play as they are designed to play, this will be a true test of a complete set of golf skills. The course is kept in immaculate shape, and the lack of trees on the course will keep the greens and fairways firm, fast, and playable throughout the season. If played from the appropriate tees, this would be an excellent course for players who may not carry the ball very far or who may be newer to the game. This style course lends itself to “ground play” and can help build confidence of players who may have trouble getting the ball into the air. Moreover, only 3 or 4 holes have water or hazards that may come into play, so if you’re trying to figure out where your driver is going, this could be a good test round.
That’s all for now, folks. If I get a chance to play again, I’ll update this post with pictures.
Course Review: Torrey Pines South
May 30, 2013
When you think of Torrey Pines Golf Course – South Course, what is the first image that comes to mind? The 2008 US Open. Tiger Woods vs. Rocco Mediate. The 18-hole playoff wasn’t enough. Golf played at one of the highest levels in any tournament was on display. In the end, Tiger won his 14th (and, still, his most recent) major. Nearly five years later, I found myself in San Diego for the first time in my life. I couldn’t pass it up. After playing two other local courses in the days prior, I was ready for Torrey.
To start, Torrey South is a beautiful track and an icon of US Open history since the Tiger/Rocco duel. For anyone who makes it to the San Diego area, it’s definitely on the “to do” list–assuming you can stomach the nonresident greens fee. The course proved to be worth the money for a one-time play, although I’d have to find a way to play for less money the next time I go. Regardless of what you pay, the views are tremendous:
San Diego area courses in general seem to be relatively short as compared to most Atlanta area courses. Torrey South, at just over 7,050 yards from the non-tournament tips, is one of the longest tracks in the area. Even at that, the course did not feel particularly long. Several holes did feel long, but I did not feel like there were many long approaches in general. Most par 3 and par 4 holes had 6-iron or less into the green, and most par 5s were at least nominally reachable in two. For example, for the 18th hole, I had an 8-iron into the green to reach in two. Not exactly stupendously long.
When I played Torrey South (at the end of February), the course had recently hosted the Farmer’s Open, a PGA Tour event won by–guess who–Tiger Woods. As such, the conditions were about as good as I would expect them to be. Greens were probably rolling at 11 on the Stimpmeter, and the fairways were lush and green–although I didn’t hit one all day (0/14 fairways in regulation). Although the pros often complain about the Poa green surface, I did not notice any substantial disturbance (although I was playing very early in the morning, so the Poa may not have budded yet). At least as compared to almost every bermuda green I’ve played, Torrey was exceptional.
Playing Torrey South confirmed one of my general suspicions about PGA Tour courses–namely, you can hit the ball basically anywhere and survive. With 0/14 fairways, I still managed a 77 with 9 GIR. The dearth of trees on the course makes it very playable for a long hitter. Although I did not play the US Open tees (I decided to go easy the first trip), I found the course very playable and had a number of close birdie putts even with my failings off the tee. Perhaps it’s just that I’m used to playing bermuda rough in Georgia, so the fescue rough at Torrey was just no big deal.
Generally, I didn’t hit any fairways because they are difficult to hit. They are not particularly wide and are typically sloped to kick the ball off the fairway if it does not have the proper flight. Greens are fairly large but are very undulating, and being on the wrong side of the hole can lead to some poor putting/chipping statistics. It has always amazed me how undulating greens are on the Tour stop courses that I’ve played (East Lake, Pebble Beach, Torrey, even Glen Abbey). However, the course is right in front of you, and if you miscue a shot, you can’t blame the course for it.
What surprised me to some degree was the forgetability of many of the holes. Although the course is absolutely stunningly beautiful, it isn’t as if each hole has a particular character that must be dealt with. Sure, there are some–3 and 18 most notably–but many of the par 4s are reruns, slight doglegs, 4XX yards, fairway wood – short iron type holes. Of those holes, I don’t remember each one. Having played Tour-caliber courses on several occasions, I can say that most if not all of the holes of each Tour stop that I’ve played have been remarkable golf holes.
A benefit of playing Torrey is that it is one of the few places in San Diego that polices the pace of play. Want to play a 5+ hour round on a Saturday morning? Play somewhere else (anywhere else in San Diego, really). Even though we were on pace, marshals complained to us about the group ahead of us and even hassled us at one point.
Altogether, Torrey South was a great golf experience. Having seen the Farmer’s Open and walked the North course a few weeks earlier, I can confidently say that the North course is no slouch, and may be every bit as good as the South, although lacking in history. However, $240 to WALK the South Course on a Saturday morning at 6:30 AM is hard to swallow, especially knowing the locals are paying $75. It might be worth it to hit the North course to get the same great experience at a lower price. Halfway house food was expensive too. That doesn’t get cheaper for locals.
Overall, I had a great time and am glad I got to play Torrey South, as courses with that much history are few and far between. However, I am interested to play the North course and see how it stacks up–it may turn out to be a cheaper alternative simply for its name. The course was well maintained, but probably not to the level of a $240 course. For two Franklins and two Jacksons, I expect a course to be pretty near perfect. All in all, I’m very glad I went.
Price: 3
Value: 5
Conditions: 9
Greens: 10
Playability: 8
Views: 9
Staff/Service: 7
Overall: 8

Torrey South Scorecard
Course Review: The Course At Wente Vineyards (Livermore, CA)
November 1, 2012
First, I would like to extend a sincere apology to our readers for not having posted in such a long time. I have unfortunately been travelling too much to post regularly, but have also accumulated a wealth of other material for reviews that should keep the posts coming through the winter. Now, on to the review!
Today, I review the Course at Wente Vineyards. Wente has been a long time coming for me. I heard about this Greg Norman design course when I moved down to the Bay-Area from the Sacramento area, but I never managed to make it out there because the rack rate was too high and Poppy Ridge was right around the corner. But, in the spirit of reviewing new courses for our readers, I decided to scour Golfnow for the best possible rate and was able to get a discount of $25 from the rack rate of $115 and make it worth my while to check out Wente. By way of comparison: Poppy Ridge (just around the corner – and reviewed here by the PowerFade) is $87 for 27 holes on the weekend at NCGA rates. I have also seen exceptionally good offers at Costco from time to time that bundle Wente with another course that might actually put the price below $90.
Wente does, however, make up for the difference in price with service, facilities, and wonderful conditions. The picture above is a view of the putting and chipping greens that sit next to the largely apportioned clubhouse. These greens were probably the fastest I’ve played in Northern California. I was playing Titleist Pro-v1s because I heard I’d need the extra spin on these greens, and boy, they were not kidding. By way of example, my first pitch shot on the green pictured on the right was from near the tree to the middle pin. The ball hit about 4 feet short of the hole, checked up, and rolled out another 10 feet. With that feel in mind, we head to the driving range.
One of the awkward things about Wente is how far away the driving range is from the rest of the course. The cart ride from the clubhouse to the range took about 7 minutes. The nice thing though, is that the drive is beautiful. The picture above is part of the route between the clubhouse and driving range. The other part meanders through the back nine and heads to the top of a high cliff where the driving range is situated. The range is noticeably more exposed than the rest of the course and probably provides a good sense of the worst of the conditions you will face throughout the day. The view below is from the driving range back down to the course.
Now, for the actual course. Some stats:
Black – 7181 yards – 75.8/145
Gold – 6840 yards – 73.9/141
Blue – 6266 yards – 71.6/131
White – 5637 yards – 68.7/124 or 73.4/130
Red – 4866 yards – 69.4/122
I played this course from the gold tees on a hot, slightly breezy day in August. The course was in phenomenal conditions and the fairways were running out. Even then, however, the course felt much longer than 6800 yards. I found myself hitting much longer clubs into holes because of carries near the green, hazards, or uphill shots. On the back nine, the infamous Livermore wind picked up and really had the last 4 holes playing long as they were straight into the wind. On the last hole, a 457 yard par 4, I hit my best driver of the day to the right fairway and had to hit a perfect 3 wood to get to the front of the green. Fortunately for me, I was able to get up and down for a solid par there while a large wedding party was watching nearby. Some more views:
One of the most unique features of this course is “Little Lombard.” This meandering part of the cart path goes up one of the steepest hills I have ever seen on a golf course. The switchbacks that make up this part of the path give the feature its name.
The course was phenomenal. The tee shots provided a very clear view of how to play the hole, and a long, accurate drive was a must to have a chance at getting to the green in regulation. Hitting the rough at Wente meant you were probably hacking back into the fairway. To me, the views on the back nine were not as nice as those on the front, but the holes were more interesting. In particular, I recall the risk-reward 10th. This drivable par 4 (plays much shorter than the yardage) could have you tempting disaster, especially if you are in the middle of a good round. I decided to lay up with a 7 iron off the tee instead of hitting driver or 3 wood, but would consider going for it next time because there was more room behind the green than I thought.
Overall, I would call Wente a great course, but not somewhere I could play every weekend. My main reason for this comment is that the course is not really walkable (see Little Lombard). This is the kind of course where I would play a special round, or bring a client from out of town. From a purely financial perspective, Wente is not your best bet. Poppy Ridge, on any given weekend would provide you with a wonderful 27 hole experience for less than a good rate at Wente. The price does have some advantages. The course play relatively quickly because of lower traffic. I played my round in about 4 hours with a cart. Many notable names play this course often. Jerry Rice is known to frequent Wente regularly, and Annika Sorenstam hosts her charity tournament at this venue each year. In the end, I would not turn down an invitation to play at Wente, but would not think of it immediately for my weekend 7am tee time.
Scorecard: http://www.wentevineyards.com/images/headers/The_Course_Scorecard.pdf
Website: http://www.wentevineyards.com/golf/
Course Review: Bali Hai (Las Vegas, NV)
September 2, 2012
Those common readers of our blog know we spend a lot of time playing new courses at locales of travel with the hope of finding a few diamonds in the rough to share with you. While our main goal is to give golfers in our own locales some information about the many local courses in our respective areas, we also like to share our experiences on various travel excursions. One spot that both LG and I have frequented for golf vacations (and vacations in general) is Las Vegas.
Although not ideal from a price point, Las Vegas is a great place to play golf. There are numerous options that give the golfers of the city a chance to get out and see what desert golf (or some variant thereof) is all about. LG and I have reviewed several of these courses (and played several more). And while they all have their own character, they seem to bring different features to the party that is a Vegas vacation.
On my most recent trip, I had a choice between playing Paiute in the afternoon in August or playing Bali Hai in the morning. Given that the temperature was around 110 degrees in the afternoon, I chose to play Bali Hai in the morning.
Bali Hai is one of the iconic courses in Vegas if for no other reason than it is right on Las Vegas Boulevard (aka, “The Strip”). Although other courses are close (i.e., the course at the Wynn), I don’t know of any other courses that are actually addressed on the strip. As such, Bali Hai is a course that gets a lot of play year round if for no reason other than it is convenient to most major resort hotels in Las Vegas. Having heard about this course for years (heck, maybe even decades), I decided it was finally time to play it.
Scorecard at http://www.balihaigolfclub.com/course/scorecard/
Bali Hai is a south-pacific themed course with white sands, exotic flowers, palm trees, rock outcroppings, and various homages to south-pacific architecture and style. The course plays (in my opinion) very short at 7,000 yards, likely because of many elevated tee boxes and thin desert air. For example, my second shots into the four par 5 holes were made with 9-iron (531-yard 2nd), 7-iron (550-yard 7th), 8-iron (518-yard 10th), and 7-iron (550-yard 15th). Even with some long par 4s (482-yard 8th, 484-yard 17th, 486-yard 18th), I had no more than a 7-iron into any green. While the course does have a few tricky drives, there are a lot of opportunities to use the driver (something I don’t see a lot in Atlanta), and there is usually an open side if one side has a hazard or OB.
What this course has going for it is convenience. The price isn’t great (I was getting a deal at $125–the rack rate is over $200), but it’s not as egregious as some other places. For example, the Wynn course is over $500 to play. However, if you’re a person who values proximity, Bali Hai is a great value. For me, I had to play a round of golf in the amount of time my wife was at the spa, so the locale of Bali Hai was worth it for me on this trip. The photos below, showing great views from the 14th and 18th tee boxes, illustrate how close the course is to the Mandalay Bay, with the Luxor seen between the two towers of Mandalay Bay.
As far as Vegas goes, the course is OK. If this course were plopped down in an Atlanta suburb, it would see a ton of play and be voted amongst the best in the city. But in Vegas, it’s so-so. What I liked about the layout was that it had some elevation change. I’ve played a number of courses in Vegas that were so flat you could land a plane on them. Bali Hai has some elevated tees, some uphill shots to greens, etc. It also has good use of water features, with a few creeks, a few greens well-guarded, and a few interesting water hazards with sand leading down into the water.
The staff was friendly and helpful, and I appreciated their attention to detail, helping me in the process from the time I drove up to the moment I left. The course is well-watered, as they understand that the players need to be hydrated to have a good time (something very important in Vegas).
What I didn’t like about this course was the condition. I have to be fair–most courses in the area are pretty bad at the end of August, and Bali Hai (like many others) was about to close for overseeding. That said, the greens are bermuda, which is an immediate strike for me. They were running only 9 on the stimp and had a lot of burnt spots. The bunkers were inconsistent, some as hard as concrete under a thin layer of sand, some like Daytona Beach. The fairways and rough were recently cut, and apparently this world-renowned course does not have a bagging mower, because there were piles of bermuda leaflets everywhere. Also, another seasonal issue, the greens were hard as concrete. I hit two 7-irons into good spots on par 5s and ended up with the ball bouncing over the greens and into depressions that were difficult to chip from.
Further, the range was an oddity. It has a very cool automatically loading tee that allows the player to hit ball after ball without bending down to re-tee. However, the range faces the strip and is no more than 100 yards long. As such, it is entirely enclosed in netting, and your drives are essentially limited to the first 100 yards of travel. I hope you don’t have any late movement the day you play.
Oh, and, speaking of landing planes, the course is RIGHT next to Las Vegas McCarron airport. Being that it’s so close, you can expect to be buzzed multiple times by jumbo-jets bringing in starry-eyed vacationers and transporting drunken/hungover and broke folks out. It actually wasn’t as loud as I expected it to be, but it was distracting for sure.
Altogether, I think the course was nice and certainly suited my needs for the trip. However, I would probably prefer to play Paiute or Rio Secco next time I make it out, as I’ve heard great reviews on both.
Price: 7/10
Value: 7/10
Experience: 7/10
Condition: 6/10 in August
Course Accommodations: 8/10
Cache: 9/10
Overall: 7/10. Good to say I’ve played it, but won’t be back until I’ve played a few others or if I need to play quickly.
Course Review: Poppy Ridge (Livermore, CA)
August 13, 2012
This review has been a long time in the making. For anyone in the Northern California Area, do yourself a favor and take a day to check out Poppy Ridge in Livermore, CA. (Note, Poppy Ridge is distinct from Poppy Hills in Monterey, CA – we have also reviewed that course here.)
Poppy Ridge has fast become one of my favorite facilities in the East Bay. Given the general lack of good public golf in the peninsula, I have had to venture out to find good courses. I need look no further than Poppy Ridge. The facility has 3 championship nines, full driving range and short game facilities, and award winning clubhouse. Moreover, in this area, the deal is hard to beat. NCGA members (if you’re not and you live in NorCal, what are you doing!?) get significant discounts on merchandise and tee times, as well as a free club fitting every year. The NCGA price to play 18 is $72 for Early and Prime times on the weekend, with an additional 9 for $20, or $32 for 18. In my estimation, for the quality of golf, speed of play, and ease of booking, there is no better deal than 27 or 36 at Poppy.
The facility has 3 distinct nines – Chardonnay, Zinfandel, and Merlot. (Scorecard). All were designed by Rees Jones. From the tips, the nines are about the same length, with Merlot claiming the award for “longest nine” at 3593 yards. As their names suggest, each nine has a slightly different character. Chardonnay is the most “interesting” of the nines. The first green is one of those that appears to have an elephant buried under it. The second is a risk-reward par-4 that appears driveable, but in my experience really is not. Zinfandel shows slightly more teeth than Chardonnay with tighter driving areas and smaller greens. Merlot is the most exposed and strategic of the nines. The wind that is familiar to those who play in the East Bay really becomes a factor on this nine. Only the 7th hole provides a respite from the wind as it down in a valley between the 6th and 8th.
In my experience, all three nines are generally open for play, with tee times split between the nines so that no groups are really waiting on any others. This fact, In and of itself, this is the best reason to play Poppy, and the reason that I was hesitant to even write this review 🙂
A quick story – The par-5 8th hole on the Zinfandel course is one of those holes that has taught me a good lesson about being aggressive. Normally, I play this hole as a 3 shot hole even though I am generally within “3 wood range.” The last time I was out there, I had a nice tail wind and felt confident with my 3 wood given that I had just hit a solid 3 wood on the last par 5. I took a good swipe and ended up hooking the shot more than I had intended. The ball drew slowly and inexorably toward the hazard stakes over the creek. After muttering my usual string of swear words, I walked over to the hazard and found the ball sitting up in the deep rough. From here, I played my third to a bunker to avoid the possibility of hitting the creek and was able to get up and down for a par with a decent bunker shot. The point, i suppose, is that I gave myself a shot at a great score on the hole and was able to save a solid par after getting into a particularly bad position on the approach. My takeaway – be aggressive.
All in all – Poppy is a fantastic track. Not having to wait on a tee box, 27 championship holes, great facilities, a decent burger at the turn, and pretty solid golf conditions year round…What else could you possibly ask for? Join the NCGA and go play!
Course Review: CordeValle
March 20, 2012
Even though we claim to try to review courses that the average joe can go play, I will not try to defend reviewing CordeValle. Spoiler: This is a favorable review. I will preface the review with an apology: I was so wrapped up in the experience that I forgot to take pictures. Below are the few that I remembered to take.
This gem of a course used to be a hidden treasure of the south bay until it became home to the Frys.com Open. One reason I was so excited to play this course was because of my own experience watching Tiger and other professionals play this course during that tournament last fall. Full review here: Frys.com Review.
Though the details of why I was able to play this course must remain a secret, I can assure you they would make any man jealous. For those not so fortunate, members of the public are invited to play 5 times a year during fundraising tournaments. Details available here: http://www.cordevallegolf.com/golf/foundation/2012-tournament-dates. For $150, you get two meals, logo-ed Tee prize, cart, greens fee, and forecaddie. I don’t really think there’s a better deal in CA golf-wise. Do it.
On to the review.
What can I say? CordeValle is amazing. Since watching a Golf Destinations special on the Golf Channel (aka TV) including CordeValle and the Frys.com, I had to get out there. The front nine opens with an easy par 4 and par 3 to get things started.
One of the things that really stood out to me about this course was the collection of par 5s. I love them. I think they might be the best par 5s i’ve ever played. The par-5 third hole is one of the most challenging par 5s I think I have ever played. The hole requires a long tee shot into a narrow landing area. Too long though, and you might run into the hazard that cuts across the middle of the hole and runs up the left side. The left side of the fairway is best to have the best angle for the layup to the right, but if you are right, you get a tempting look at the green protected on the left by a large tree.
The par-5 sixth, on the other hand, is a very reachable uphill par-5. It provides a wide-open tee shot into a generous landing area and requires a laser-sharp approach if you hope to be putting for eagle.
Aside: After the 6th are three of my favorite holes in California. I did my best to capture the downhill par-3 seventh and short par-4 eighth in one picture. Rocco Mediate made a hole in one on this par 3 and holed out for eagle on this par 4 en route to his victory at this tournament in 2010. These were only 2 of his four hole outs for the week! (see our Play of the Week updates at https://thepowerfade.wordpress.com/2010/10/16/play-of-the-week-2/ and https://thepowerfade.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/play-of-the-week-2-5/
The par-4 ninth provides a hazard-split fairway and difficult approach to a small and well bunkered green. This hole is just fun. Take aim and hit it long. This image is borrowed from the CordeValle website:
The other par 5s (15 and 18) are similarly challenging and fair. 15, depending on the wind, can be a reachable (straight) uphill par-5 while only the bravest of souls will take on the (long) forced carry over water in two on 18.
While the greens felt slightly smaller than other courses in the area, they along with the wind provide the defense for this track. Missing the green or even the correct section of the green on this course will really put a damper on your scoring. My advice: Make sure your wedges are singing when you take on CordeValle.
The back nine was much windier than when I played the front, but still provided the same scenic beauty and certainly the challenge of the front. The back nine is less accessible during the Frys.com, and therefore this was my first look at it. The entire course provides elevation change, difficult greens, lush fairways, stellar views, and an unforgettable golf experience.
My personal story of the round comes from the par-3 twelfth. This medium length par-3 was playing straight downwind. To give some frame of reference, we played from the 190 yard tee and our caddie said to play our “160 clubs”. My playing partner who was about 2 clubs shorter than me, but decided to hit his 6 iron. He put his ball about 40 feet over the green. I had an 7 iron in hand and hit what I considered to be a chip shot of the tee and ended up nearly rolling off the back of the green. Left with a 50 footer straight into the wind, I hit the putt with enough force to send it back to the tee. My spider rolled it ever so gently to the hole and I watched it disappear into the hole like a little mouse. Easily one of my best birdies.
Though I failed to take pictures of most of the day, below is one of my favorite views on the course. Though we usually end reviews with an overall impression, I will let CordeValle speak for itself. If you get the opportunity to play, go.
For one of the best course websites, in addition to golf courses, See: http://www.cordevallegolf.com/golf/course/hole-by-hole-course-tour.
In yet another joint post, LG and I review a place near and dear to both our hearts, the Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail–specifically, the course at Oxmoor Valley. Nearly two years ago now (Summer 2010), LG and I visited the RTJ Golf Trail for a 3-day trip through Alabama to play three sites of one of the most fun golf experiences in the Southeast, the Robert Trent Jones Golf Trail (see www.rtjgolf.com) (Note: given that this was our second trip, the photos below will show the course at two different times). Although there are a number of trips in the Southeast that I am looking forward to taking some day (Pinehurst and Sawgrass to name a few), the RTJ golf trail is both reasonably priced and easily accessible (relatively) for both LG (who has relatives in Mississippi) and me (Atlanta)–in particular, the courses in Birmingham, AL.
Oxmoor Valley is one of two RTJ sites in Birmingham, the other being the Ross Bridge course. However, we have not played the Ross Bridge course because it is easily 3x the cost of playing the Oxmoor Valley, and, although we’re fanatical about golf, unnecessary cost doesn’t equate to greater value.
As previously mentioned, LG and I have visited multiple RTJ sites. For the price, there is little that is comparable to RTJ courses. For those that don’t know, Robert Trent Jones designed golf courses are typically long, undulating, and punshing while maintaining an understated elegance and natural beauty. 430+ yard par 4s and 3-teired greens are just some of the common elements of an RTJ course. But when he gets a hold of an excellent piece of real estate–as he’s done throughout Alabama–RTJ manages to produce excellent golf. And the courses are well-maintained, even in the winter and the dog days of summer.
What’s more, most RTJ sites include multiple golf courses in one site. Oxmoor Valley includes 36 holes of full-length golf and a par-3 “short course” that provides an excellent challenge. When LG and I visited the RTJ course several years ago, we opted to play the Ridge course and the Valley course in the same day. Halfway through the Valley course, we left and went back to the Ridge.
I have played about 130 holes of RTJ Trail golf (27 at Silver Lakes, 45 at Capitol Hill, 27 at Oxmoor, and 30-ish at Grand National, not counting short courses), and the Ridge course at Oxmoor Valley may be my favorite of all.
First, the clubhouses at all RTJ Courses are large and inviting lodge-type atmospheres, complete with full restaurants that serve very good meals to hungry patrons. The structures are adorned with memoirs of the great times one has playing golf and reminders of the history of the game.
A view from the first green back toward the tee at the Ridge course gives a great idea of what lies ahead. Rolling hills, meandering tree lines, green fairways, and precise layouts make shotmaking in critical demand for a good score. The visual obstructions often make tee shots intimidating experiences, seeing how many places one can miss the fairway. Still, little matches the natural beauty of a well-planned golf course, and RTJ has plenty of that.
Yet another indicator of the beauty of this course is seen at the par 5 3rd hole. A brave driver can place his ball in the fairway between the water.
Even if you manage to hit a career drive, RTJ leaves very little payoff. The uphill second shot to a pedestal green is an unlikely reach, even for the longest and most precise hitter.
What might be the signature hole of this course, the par 3 8th, is downhill and all carry over water. A nicely hit 7 or 8 iron (depending on pin location) will put you in a good spot for a birdie. A quick story from LG here: We have had two chances to play this hole in our time. During our first trip, the pin was located in the back right section of this green, and during our second, it was located in the front left location. During both trips, JK somehow managed to stick his ball in a position to have the longest putt imaginable on this green. I think he would have had about 5 feet of putts total left had the pins been swapped. I, on the other hand, have played this hole in even par for my career thanks to two nicely placed shots that left me a grand total of about 25 feet of putts on this green in two rounds. The closeup of the green below allows you to see this for yourself. Now back to JK.
As my memory serves, I don’t recall thinking this course was very long. Yet, at over 7,000 yards from the tips, no one can call it a short course. I suppose I was too focused on other features of the course to worry about the length.
Although I haven’t seemed to play well, I can’t blame the course at all for that.
Quick aside from LG: JK might not be able to blame the course, but I’ll definitely throw in a complaint. RTJ designs a hard golf course. I love them and would love to have one be my home course some day, but man, they can kick your tail. A quick example is the dastardly par-4 6th below.
The dogleg left hole measures 447 yards from the tips and requires a massive carry over a ravine. The more that I think about this behemoth, the less terrible I feel about making a quadruple bogey 8 on it during our last outing. The carry must be long and precise. The fairway slopes left toward the ravine and it is impossible to tell from the tee where the fairway comes out to save an errant ball. Moreover, the ravine cuts across the hole and makes any approach from the right rough a tall order. Oh, and even if you hit that monster drive, heaven help you if you have anything longer than a 7 iron in because this three tiered green demands a high, soft shot to get within range. Missing the green on any side, long, or short will provide a daunting up and down. My advice: play this hole as a par 5, or hope that your karma is better than mine. In two rounds, I am collectively 7 over on this hole alone. Now back to JK.
The drawbacks–it’s hard to say. The courses are not really walkable not only because of undulation but also because there is a lot of distance between greens and tees. They are typically out in the middle of nowhere, but Birmingham wasn’t bad at all. Not to mention, when you’re golfing, you typically don’t want to be in an urban center. The service is great. The cost is reasonable ($52/18 holes with cart).
One thing, you may want to check and ensure that maintenance is not being done during your trip. LG and I had planned to play one RTJ course during our 3-day visit that we skipped because it was being aerated during our visit. Thankfully, we checked when we called ahead–not sure they would’ve told us if we hadn’t asked.
All in all, though, it’s a great place to play golf.
Value: 8/10
Condition/Maintenance: 8/10
Price: 8/10
Layout: 9/10
Challenge: 8/10
Overall: 8/10
PS, LG and I also STRONGLY recommend a trip to Saw’s BBQ after the round. Unbelievably good, if you like good BBQ: 1008 Oxmoor Rd, Birmingham, AL | (205) 879-1937 | sawsbbq.com
Course Review: Poppy Hills Golf Course (Monterey, CA)
December 14, 2011
Today, we review the home course of the NCGA – Poppy Hills in Monterey, CA. One quick note about this course prior to the review: JK and I had planned on playing this course during our first trip to Monterey, but never got around to it because we were both exhausted after playing Spanish Bay. After this round, JK, I can tell you we made the right decision. Not because the course isn’t worth playing–it definitely is, but it would have kicked our butts and likely not been the ocean course experience we were looking for during this trip. Had the weather been like this during our trip though, there’s very little doubt in my mind we would have been out there. The pictures tell the story. Onward!
Poppy is a beautiful Robert Trent Jones designed course located in the heart of Pebble Beach. Driving there gave me a heightened sense of excitement as compared to the usual round of golf because the last time I drove down 17 mile drive, I was on my way to play Pebble. Rather than take the scenic drive down toward the water, however, the road twisted and turned back into the hills and opened up to this wonderful 18 hole facility.
The course, pro shop, and practice facility at Poppy are outstanding — there is very little I can say that hasn’t been said by the prizes that Poppy’s pro shop has won don’t already say. The layout is interesting and challenging. Some of the holes feel a little tricked up, but others are simply stunning. An example of the former is the par 4 5th hole. At 428 yards from the black tee, the hole’s principle defense is a giant bunker on the left side, water on the approach, and a subtly tiered green. The second shot is a demanding one, but for some reason, the man-made pond on the right makes this hole feel more contrived than natural. Call me critical. Full disclosure — I dropped one right into the middle of this lake after skying a driver short into the fairway. The par 3s on this course, on the other hand, were some of the best I’ve played in a long time. The second hole, on the other hand,was reminiscent of Pasatiempo with an absolutely enormous bunker short of the green. Below is a view from the green back to the tee:
And now from the tee to the green:
The scorecard shows just how stout a challenge this course can provide. My sense is that, despite its absence during my visit, the wind is a critical factor that brings the true teeth to this course on some of the shorter par 4s.
If I am being fair to myself, however, I must say I was disappointed. The biggest downside for this course may well be the fact of its location. Were this course near my home in the greater Bay Area, I have no doubt that I’d be the first in line to get a membership. Because this course is next to Pebble Beach, Spyglass Hill, Spanish Bay, Bayonet and Blackhorse, PG Muni, and a slew of private courses, however, it would not be even my 5th choice of courses to play if I were going to Monterey. When I think of a Monterey golf experience, inevitably, I think of cypress trees, ocean winds, and, well, the ocean!! While Poppy is a great course, the lack of ocean views, even on as clear a day as I had, sort of diminishes the experience for me. Knowing what I know now, I would be much more enthusiastic about returning to Poppy, but would have tempered expectations based on my previous experience. At $72 for the NCGA rate and complimentary gate access to 17 mile drive (normally $10), the deal is nearly impossible to pass up for a fantastic day of golf.
All in all, I enjoyed the day at Poppy. The weather was, pardon the phrasing, picture perfect. I couldn’t help thinking though, “man, I wish I’d gone to Spyglass with weather like this…”